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Who Is At Highest Risk Of Swine Flu That Can Qualify For A Vaccine? Are The Young And Healthy At Risk For This?

Postby Chung-Hee » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:13 am

If young and healthy people are at a greater risk of dying or having serious effects of the disease, then should they be included among the old, sick, and very young to get vaccinated early? Who should wait in line?
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Who Is At Highest Risk Of Swine Flu That Can Qualify For A Vaccine? Are The Young And Healthy At Risk For This?

Postby Udall » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:52 am

Here is information I received in an email on medical matters:"The silence is almost deafening in the American press when it comes to information about the potentially lethal link between swine flu vaccine and the dreaded nerve disorder of Guillain-Barre syndrome, some health officials say. But information about the link recently reached the public in the United Kingdom in two letters leaked to the Daily Mail. The letters were addressed to 600 senior British neurologists. One was from the UK?s Health Protection Agency and the other, from the Association of British Neurologists. The specter of Guillain-Barre is too dangerous to be ignored, and news that the swine flu vaccine might cause it should not be soft-pedaled in the United States, some health officials say. Guillain-Barre syndrome is an incurable autoimmune disorder that ravages the protective sheathing of the nerves, affecting the brain and the spinal cord. It can cause death or permanent disability, or even paralysis to the point that patients must be put on respirators to breathe. Although no one knows its exact cause, physicians know it can be triggered by surgery or by vaccinations such as the swine flu vaccine ? and the vaccine is the big concern of the moment, given the precedent of 1976. That year, the U.S. government rushed to develop a swine flu vaccine and gave it to about 40 million people. Soon after the deaths of 25 people from paralysis and respiratory failure, the government strongly suspected the vaccine was the cause and withdrew it. The swine flu itself, on the other hand, killed only one person. The new strain of swine flu used in the new vaccine is slightly different, but concerns about Guillain-Barre remain the same. "I would not have the swine flu jab" because of the risk, said a senior neurologist who asked that his name not be used. Yet another worry about the vaccine is the use of a component oil called squalene. Squalene also can set off autoimmunity and is associated with multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer?s disease, ALS, and Parkinson?s disease, according to Dr. Russell Blaylock, a prominent American neurosurgeon. Many British experts also are worried about squalene, going so far as to call the upcoming initial trial of the swine flu vaccine a ?guinea-pig trial.? The leaked letters beg doctors to be on the lookout for patients with Guillain-Barre symptoms, revealing deep doubts and fears in the UK about the safety of the new vaccine. The letter from the Association of British Neurologists, for instance, informed physicians that the vaccine caused a possible eight-fold increase in Guillain-Barre during the 1976 U.S. swine flu bout. The Health Protection Agency letter reminded physicians that, in the 1976 bout in the United States, more people died from the vaccination than the flu. More than 500 cases of Guillain-Barre were diagnosed and resulted in the vaccine's being withdrawn after just 10 weeks. Guillain-Barre By the Numbers: About 160 million doses of swine flu vaccine will be available this fall. In 1976, about one in 100,000 who got the swine flu vaccine developed Guillain-Barre." ---------------I have had the honest-to-goodness flu twice in my life, and it is miserable. No doubt about it. No 24 or 48 hour affair, it continues for about ten days, and one time went into 'walking pneumonia' for me when I tried to get up and about too early.Nevertheless, I refuse to get flu vaccinations. The one time I got one I was just as sick for a few days as with the flu itself! Now I know that when I say the above came from a NewsMax source, I will be ridiculed again, and yet again. That's norm for here. But I pass the information on for what it's worth.
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Postby cyneric » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:04 am

Mostly Adults at 'Higher Risk' From Swine Flu. Adults at 'Higher Risk' From Swine FluAs noted above, pregnancy, lung diseases, and older age put adults at higher risk of swine flu complications.Those aren't the only underlying medical conditions that make swine flu dangerous. Here's the rest of the list:Cardiovascular conditions(except high blood pressure)Liver problemsKidney problemsBlood disorders, including sickle-cell diseaseNeurologic disordersNeuromuscular disordersMetabolic disorders, including diabetesImmune suppression, including HIV infection and medications that suppress the immune systemResidency in a nursing home or other chronic-care facilityA striking number of adults who developed severe swine flu complications have been morbidly obese. However, obesity itself does not seem to be the issue. The vast majority of extremely obese people suffer respiratory problems and/or diabetes, which seem to be the underlying reason for severe flu complications. Sources: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=104018 samea 65 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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Postby legget45 » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:31 am

*Lin* replied to post #1: 3 From Snopes.com regarding the misinformation being spread by email and throughout the blogosphere about ewind Flu and Guillain-Barre syndrome. Please note, the boldface print was done by me. The false claims are shown with the # symbol.# The last time they did mandatory vaccinations at least one person died and many others developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, which is a devastating illness.This statement is presumably a reference to the 1976 Swine flu vaccination program, known as the National Influenza Immunization Program(NIIP). Although a causal connection was never definitively established, the possibility that the vaccine might have resulted in an increased incidence of Guillain-Barré syndrome(GBS), an inflammatory disorder in which the body's immune system attacks part of the peripheral nervous system, was one of the factors that led to the termination of the program:What NIIP did not and could not survive was finding cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome(GBS) among persons receiving swine flu immunizations. As of 1976, >50 "antecedent events" had been identified in temporal relationship to GBS, events that were considered as possible factors in its cause. The list included viral infections, injections, and "being struck by lightning." Whether or not any of the antecedents had a causal relationship to GBS was, and remains, unclear. When cases of GBS were identified among recipients of the swine flu vaccines, they were, of course, well covered by the press. Because GBS cases are always present in the population, the necessary public health questions concerning the cases among vaccine recipients were "Is the number of cases of GBS among vaccine recipients higher than would be expected? And if so, are the increased cases the result of increased surveillance or a true increase?" Leading epidemiologists debated these points, but the consensus, based on the intensified surveillance for GBS(and other conditions) in recipients of the vaccines, was that the number of cases of GBS appeared to be an excess.It should be noted, however, that the primary reason for the termination of the NIIP was that the feared swine flu epidemic it was intended to combat never occurred. Had there been a swine flu epidemic, the benefits of timely vaccinations would have far outweighed the relatively small risks:Had H1N1 influenza been transmitted at that time, the small apparent risk of GBS from immunization would have been eclipsed by the obvious immediate benefit of vaccine-induced protection against swine flu. However, in December 1976, with >40 million persons immunized and no evidence of H1N1 transmission, federal health officials decided that the possibility of an association of GBS with the vaccine, however small, necessitated stopping immunization, at least until the issue could be explored.Since a current swine flu vaccine has yet to be put through clinical trials and rolled out to large numbers of people, no one could possibly know what connection(if any) there might be between such a vaccine and GBS. Moreover, it's something of a logical disconnect to assert that a particular contagion is going to cause the death of 60% of the population, yet suggest people should avoid being vaccinated for it because of a minuscule chance that taking the vaccine might result in the recipient's contracting a different illness.# They have not let the public know because they don't want people to panic. They expect that martial law will be put into effect.These types of statements are commonly found(almost verbatim) in all manner of unsubstantiated, alarmist e-mails, covering scenarios from Y2K-related chaos to the United States' surrendering its sovereignty to the United Nations. We have yet to encounter a single case in which such statements proved to be true.# This is straight from the mouths of the CDC and Johns Hopkins.As noted above, neither the CDC(nor Johns Hopkins) has issued any such statements as the ones claimed above.Rather than relying on and disseminating misinformation about swine flu passed along through anonymous, unsourced e-mails, we'd advise readers to obtain their information from reputable public health agencies such as the CDC and the WHO. 65 months ago
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Who Is At Highest Risk Of Swine Flu That Can Qualify For A Vaccine? Are The Young And Healthy At Risk For This?

Postby Ar-ke-kee-tah » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:01 am

People at the most risk from swine flu will be given priority for the swine flu vaccine. Priority groups will include pregnant women, frontline health and social care workers, and everyone over six months old with serious underlying health conditions. Vaccinations are expected to begin in late September or October.Swine flu vaccineMore than 11 million people are in the priority groups to be first in line for the swine flu vaccine.The following groups will be prioritised in this order(numbers given are estimates for England only): 1. people aged over six months and under 65 years in seasonal flu vaccine at-risk groups(about five million people) 2. all pregnant women, subject to licensing conditions on trimesters(about 0.5 million people) 3. household contacts of people with reduced immune systems - e.g. people in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer(about 0.5 million people) 4. people aged 65 and over in the seasonal flu vaccine at-risk groups(about 3.5 million people) - this does not include otherwise healthy over 65s as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virusVaccination of frontline health and social care workers(around two million people) will begin at the same time as the first at-risk group. This will probably be in late September or October.This group is at increased risk of infection and of transmitting that infection to susceptible patients. Protecting these people will help the NHS workforce to remain resilient and able to treat sick patients.Steps are being taken to extend vaccination against swine flu to other groups.Health secretary, Andy Burnham, said: ""The UK will be one of the first countries in the world to receive a vaccine supply, thanks to contracts put in place by the government in advance of the pandemic."""Although the virus has so far proved to be mild in most people, for others it has been more serious. By vaccinating high risk groups first, we aim to protect those most vulnerable to this virus."""Our decisions at all times are based on advice from the most eminent specialists, and this will continue to be the case as we go forward.""
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Postby Neuveville » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:21 pm

*Lin* said: 2 Sorry, Watermelon, you have some of your facts wrong. The old, unless they have a chronic illness, are not included in the first round of vaccinations, with a caveat. Here's what I just got from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website:"Novel H1N1 VaccineEvery flu season has the potential to cause a lot of illness, doctor?s visits, hospitalizations and deaths. CDC is concerned that the new H1N1 flu virus could result in a particularly severe flu season this year. Vaccines are the best tool we have to prevent influenza. CDC hopes that people will start to go out and get vaccinated against seasonal influenza as soon as vaccines become available at their doctor?s offices and in their communities(this may be as early as August for some). The seasonal flu vaccine is unlikely to provide protection against novel H1N1 influenza. However a novel H1N1 vaccine is currently in production and may be ready for the public in the fall. The novel H1N1 vaccine is not intended to replace the seasonal flu vaccine ? it is intended to be used along-side seasonal flu vaccine. CDC?s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices(ACIP), a panel made up of medical and public health experts, met July 29, 2009, to make recommendations on who should receive the new H1N1 vaccine when it becomes available. While some issues are still unknown, such as how severe the virus will be during the fall and winter months, the ACIP considered several factors, including current disease patterns, populations most at-risk for severe illness based on current trends in illness, hospitalizations and deaths, how much vaccine is expected to be available, and the timing of vaccine availability.The groups recommended to receive the novel H1N1 influenza vaccine include: * Pregnant women because they are at higher risk of complications and can potentially provide protection to infants who cannot be vaccinated; * Household contacts and caregivers for children younger than 6 months of age because younger infants are at higher risk of influenza-related complications and cannot be vaccinated. Vaccination of those in close contact with infants less than 6 months old might help protect infants by ?cocooning? them from the virus; * Healthcare and emergency medical services personnel because infections among healthcare workers have been reported and this can be a potential source of infection for vulnerable patients. Also, increased absenteeism in this population could reduce healthcare system capacity; * All people from 6 months through 24 years of age o Children from 6 months through 18 years of age because we have seen many cases of novel H1N1 influenza in children and they are in close contact with each other in school and day care settings, which increases the likelihood of disease spread, and o Young adults 19 through 24 years of age because we have seen many cases of novel H1N1 influenza in these healthy young adults and they often live, work, and study in close proximity, and they are a frequently mobile population; and, * Persons aged 25 through 64 years who have health conditions associated with higher risk of medical complications from influenza.We do not expect that there will be a shortage of novel H1N1 vaccine, but flu vaccine availability and demand can be unpredictable and there is some possibility that initially, the vaccine will be available in limited quantities. So, the ACIP also made recommendations regarding which people within the groups listed above should be prioritized if the vaccine is initially available in extremely limited quantities. For more information see the CDC press release CDC Advisors Make Recommendations for Use of Vaccine Against Novel H1N1. Once the demand for vaccine for the prioritized groups has been met at the local level, programs and providers should also begin vaccinating everyone from the ages of 25 through 64 years. Current studies indicate that the risk for infection among persons age 65 or older is less than the risk for younger age groups. However, once vaccine demand among younger age groups has been met, programs and providers should offer vaccination to people 65 or older." cdc.gov 65 months ago
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Postby Randell » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:35 pm

Adults at 'Higher Risk' From Swine FluAs noted above, pregnancy, lung diseases, and older age put adults at higher risk of swine flu complications.Those aren't the only underlying medical conditions that make swine flu dangerous. Here's the rest of the list:Cardiovascular conditions(except high blood pressure)Liver problemsKidney problemsBlood disorders, including sickle-cell diseaseNeurologic disordersNeuromuscular disordersMetabolic disorders, including diabetesImmune suppression, including HIV infection and medications that suppress the immune systemResidency in a nursing home or other chronic-care facilityA striking number of adults who developed severe swine flu complications have been morbidly obese. However, obesity itself does not seem to be the issue. The vast majority of extremely obese people suffer respiratory problems and/or diabetes, which seem to be the underlying reason for severe flu complications.
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Postby Jeff » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:09 pm

tuppence said: 1 Here is information I received in an email on medical matters:"The silence is almost deafening in the American press when it comes to information about the potentially lethal link between swine flu vaccine and the dreaded nerve disorder of Guillain-Barre syndrome, some health officials say. But information about the link recently reached the public in the United Kingdom in two letters leaked to the Daily Mail. The letters were addressed to 600 senior British neurologists. One was from the UK?s Health Protection Agency and the other, from the Association of British Neurologists. The specter of Guillain-Barre is too dangerous to be ignored, and news that the swine flu vaccine might cause it should not be soft-pedaled in the United States, some health officials say. Guillain-Barre syndrome is an incurable autoimmune disorder that ravages the protective sheathing of the nerves, affecting the brain and the spinal cord. It can cause death or permanent disability, or even paralysis to the point that patients must be put on respirators to breathe. Although no one knows its exact cause, physicians know it can be triggered by surgery or by vaccinations such as the swine flu vaccine ? and the vaccine is the big concern of the moment, given the precedent of 1976. That year, the U.S. government rushed to develop a swine flu vaccine and gave it to about 40 million people. Soon after the deaths of 25 people from paralysis and respiratory failure, the government strongly suspected the vaccine was the cause and withdrew it. The swine flu itself, on the other hand, killed only one person. The new strain of swine flu used in the new vaccine is slightly different, but concerns about Guillain-Barre remain the same. "I would not have the swine flu jab" because of the risk, said a senior neurologist who asked that his name not be used. Yet another worry about the vaccine is the use of a component oil called squalene. Squalene also can set off autoimmunity and is associated with multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer?s disease, ALS, and Parkinson?s disease, according to Dr. Russell Blaylock, a prominent American neurosurgeon. Many British experts also are worried about squalene, going so far as to call the upcoming initial trial of the swine flu vaccine a ?guinea-pig trial.? The leaked letters beg doctors to be on the lookout for patients with Guillain-Barre symptoms, revealing deep doubts and fears in the UK about the safety of the new vaccine. The letter from the Association of British Neurologists, for instance, informed physicians that the vaccine caused a possible eight-fold increase in Guillain-Barre during the 1976 U.S. swine flu bout. The Health Protection Agency letter reminded physicians that, in the 1976 bout in the United States, more people died from the vaccination than the flu. More than 500 cases of Guillain-Barre were diagnosed and resulted in the vaccine's being withdrawn after just 10 weeks. Guillain-Barre By the Numbers: About 160 million doses of swine flu vaccine will be available this fall. In 1976, about one in 100,000 who got the swine flu vaccine developed Guillain-Barre." ---------------I have had the honest-to-goodness flu twice in my life, and it is miserable. No doubt about it. No 24 or 48 hour affair, it continues for about ten days, and one time went into 'walking pneumonia' for me when I tried to get up and about too early.Nevertheless, I refuse to get flu vaccinations. The one time I got one I was just as sick for a few days as with the flu itself! Now I know that when I say the above came from a NewsMax source, I will be ridiculed again, and yet again. That's norm for here. But I pass the information on for what it's worth. 65 months ago
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Postby Machk » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:05 pm

Sorry, Watermelon, you have some of your facts wrong. The old, unless they have a chronic illness, are not included in the first round of vaccinations, with a caveat. Here's what I just got from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website:"Novel H1N1 VaccineEvery flu season has the potential to cause a lot of illness, doctor?s visits, hospitalizations and deaths. CDC is concerned that the new H1N1 flu virus could result in a particularly severe flu season this year. Vaccines are the best tool we have to prevent influenza. CDC hopes that people will start to go out and get vaccinated against seasonal influenza as soon as vaccines become available at their doctor?s offices and in their communities(this may be as early as August for some). The seasonal flu vaccine is unlikely to provide protection against novel H1N1 influenza. However a novel H1N1 vaccine is currently in production and may be ready for the public in the fall. The novel H1N1 vaccine is not intended to replace the seasonal flu vaccine ? it is intended to be used along-side seasonal flu vaccine. CDC?s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices(ACIP), a panel made up of medical and public health experts, met July 29, 2009, to make recommendations on who should receive the new H1N1 vaccine when it becomes available. While some issues are still unknown, such as how severe the virus will be during the fall and winter months, the ACIP considered several factors, including current disease patterns, populations most at-risk for severe illness based on current trends in illness, hospitalizations and deaths, how much vaccine is expected to be available, and the timing of vaccine availability.The groups recommended to receive the novel H1N1 influenza vaccine include: * Pregnant women because they are at higher risk of complications and can potentially provide protection to infants who cannot be vaccinated; * Household contacts and caregivers for children younger than 6 months of age because younger infants are at higher risk of influenza-related complications and cannot be vaccinated. Vaccination of those in close contact with infants less than 6 months old might help protect infants by ?cocooning? them from the virus; * Healthcare and emergency medical services personnel because infections among healthcare workers have been reported and this can be a potential source of infection for vulnerable patients. Also, increased absenteeism in this population could reduce healthcare system capacity; * All people from 6 months through 24 years of age o Children from 6 months through 18 years of age because we have seen many cases of novel H1N1 influenza in children and they are in close contact with each other in school and day care settings, which increases the likelihood of disease spread, and o Young adults 19 through 24 years of age because we have seen many cases of novel H1N1 influenza in these healthy young adults and they often live, work, and study in close proximity, and they are a frequently mobile population; and, * Persons aged 25 through 64 years who have health conditions associated with higher risk of medical complications from influenza.We do not expect that there will be a shortage of novel H1N1 vaccine, but flu vaccine availability and demand can be unpredictable and there is some possibility that initially, the vaccine will be available in limited quantities. So, the ACIP also made recommendations regarding which people within the groups listed above should be prioritized if the vaccine is initially available in extremely limited quantities. For more information see the CDC press release CDC Advisors Make Recommendations for Use of Vaccine Against Novel H1N1. Once the demand for vaccine for the prioritized groups has been met at the local level, programs and providers should also begin vaccinating everyone from the ages of 25 through 64 years. Current studies indicate that the risk for infection among persons age 65 or older is less than the risk for younger age groups. However, once vaccine demand among younger age groups has been met, programs and providers should offer vaccination to people 65 or older." cdc.gov
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Postby Huey » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:46 pm

Swine flu vaccine priority for most at risk People at the most risk from swine flu will be given priority for the swine flu vaccine. Priority groups will include pregnant women, frontline health and social care workers, and everyone over six months old with serious underlying health conditions. Vaccinations are expected to begin in late September or October.Swine flu vaccineMore than 11 million people are in the priority groups to be first in line for the swine flu vaccine.The following groups will be prioritised in this order(numbers given are estimates for England only): 1. people aged over six months and under 65 years in seasonal flu vaccine at-risk groups(about five million people) 2. all pregnant women, subject to licensing conditions on trimesters(about 0.5 million people) 3. household contacts of people with reduced immune systems - e.g. people in regular close contact with patients on treatment for cancer(about 0.5 million people) 4. people aged 65 and over in the seasonal flu vaccine at-risk groups(about 3.5 million people) - this does not include otherwise healthy over 65s as they appear to have some natural immunity to the virusVaccination of frontline health and social care workers(around two million people) will begin at the same time as the first at-risk group. This will probably be in late September or October.This group is at increased risk of infection and of transmitting that infection to susceptible patients. Protecting these people will help the NHS workforce to remain resilient and able to treat sick patients.Steps are being taken to extend vaccination against swine flu to other groups.Health secretary, Andy Burnham, said: ""The UK will be one of the first countries in the world to receive a vaccine supply, thanks to contracts put in place by the government in advance of the pandemic."""Although the virus has so far proved to be mild in most people, for others it has been more serious. By vaccinating high risk groups first, we aim to protect those most vulnerable to this virus."""Our decisions at all times are based on advice from the most eminent specialists, and this will continue to be the case as we go forward."" Sources: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_179821 katty788 65 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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