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Where Do Atheists Get Their Morals From?

Postby Healy » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:26 pm

Us christians get our morals from the bible. while many believe this is ridiculous and barbaric, you must understand that there is a reason certain activities are a sin. Premarital sex can lead to- STD's, emotional scars, accidental pregnancy, abortion. ect. Drinking and smoking can cause lung cancer, liver cancer, and plenty of other complicatons. The bible tells us to refrain from doing such things as it does not bring true happiness in life and it ends up destroying you

So, where do atheists get their morals? Is it from common sense, or what your parents tell you what is right and what is wrong?
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Postby stanley » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:28 pm

"Premarital sex can lead to- STDs'"

False. Having sex with an infected person gives you an STD. A marriage certificate isn't going to stop that.


Also, married people have abortions as well as accidental pregnancies.


To answer your main question, we get our morals from our surrounding society, just like you do.
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Postby Fulton » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:30 pm

The same place Christians get their morals; people.
You see, God is the main character in ancient myths and ancient people wrote those myths.
So every moral that you think comes from God, actually comes from ancient people.
You have just allowed yourself to be duped into believing that God is real. Atheists know the truth.
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Postby Kyran » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:31 pm

Society and culture and the laws of reciprocity. Just like Christians do. You may think your morals derive from some dusty old book, but it comes from what I stated previously.

Funny how many of the most important morals are found in most cultures and societies: e.g. murder is bad, stealing and lying are discouraged, respect your elders, etc.

Where do you think your beloved morals in the Bible came from? They were relevant from society and culture of the time.

Besides, not even Christians are united on what is morally acceptable. Some areas Christians differ on morals: Abortion, gay marriage, interracial marriage, polygamy, sexuality, sex before marriage, profits vs. charity, taxation, and so on.
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Postby Branduff » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:34 pm

We get them from our parents, from society, from our own internal sense of right and wrong, given when and where we are living.
(For example, slavery used to be OK; in fact, the bible is fine with it, but now it would be "wrong" to condone it.
Also illegal under temporal laws.)

Marital sex can also lead to STDs, accidental pregnancy, abortion, etc.
Did they know about STDs when the bible was written? Does the bible say you can't smoke? For centuries nobody knew there was a connection between smoking and cancer.
In fact, I don't think tobacco grows in the Middle East where the bible was concocted.
As for drinking, check 1 Timothy 5:23 - "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities."

I'm more honest than most Christians I know.
I do the right thing without trying to gain brownie points with an invisible guy in the sky.
I don't need to be threatened with eternal damnation to keep me from doing wrong.
Seems to me my morals are higher than those who only do the right thing out of fear or expectation of a reward after they're dead.

Edit: Laws are based on self-interest.
So are the 10 Commandments.
"Don't kill me." Don't take my stuff." "Don't screw my wife."
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Postby Saer » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:38 pm

Society.

Everyone (religious or not) has the same moral choices in life, because of the society we all share.

Some religious people (christian, jew, muslim - whatever) make bad moral choices. Like hitler. But lots make good moral choices. The same with non-religious people.

I don't think religion makes THAT much of an impact to how moral a person is, because we all get our morals from the society we live in. It's kind of the same for religious and non-religious people, becasue we all share 90% of the input into our "moral psychology" because we live in the same society.
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Postby Heathley » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:39 pm

The Bible

Exodus 21:7

7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

So....how much can I get for an 8 year old anyhow?????
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Postby Quintrell » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:42 pm

We get it from socialising with the real world, not confined by petty primitive legends and fables in a book. Also, it's an evolutionary aspect to our prefrontal cortex.

Certain activities are NOT sin, they're just objectionable to our point of views, or rather our judgments. Any sex of the unprotected variety can potentially lead to transferring STDs, etc. But we've gone through preventative measures such as the contraception and condoms to avoid this problem. Drinking and smoking can cause lung cancer, liver cancer, and plenty of other complications, and this is based on the groundwork of medical studies and modern science. No Bible has reveled in this fact without any scientific background. The Bible by many judgments is a category of the worst morals known to mankind. It is condemned by the peaceful, and promoted by the controlling. From killing your rebellious children to slicing the hand of a protective spouse for grabbing a man's gonads, it is disgusting to look at as anything more than piffle.

EDIT: I will SMASH any belief that causes harm to humankind, this is resoundingly so that it won't ever be spread to our next generation. Also, this is not a hatred directed towards you, don't flatter yourself, this is a hatred among many repulsive and primitive solutions to gaining territorial expansion and control over the susceptible.

EDIT: People who are NOT angry at the effects of harmful religions are decidedly so ignorant or passive towards this infectious contagion. You cannot respect something that can never earn it.
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Postby Ninian » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:05 pm

A mix of society, my parents, and of course a little common sense.


The Bible also condones slavery.
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Postby Elvy » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:19 pm

People who don?t believe in God or gods, or supernatural beings generally, make choices and have the same basic morality as everyone else, as part of the complex behaviour patterns that evolved in our species, and others. When several behaviour patterns conflict in a given situation, our upbringing, experience, need to live as part of a community, and the satisfying chemical changes that evolved to happen in our brains when we do someone a favour, determine which to suppress; this is often done subconsciously, but can sometimes be conscious (which might be what we experience as conscience). And when this goes wrong, we have remedies as a species codified in laws, penalties and punishments.

Having experience of life, I base my choices on mutual respect and compassion for others.

I just don't attribute the origin of moral behaviour to mythical beings, or claim that the way we resolve conflicting behaviour patterns consciously is through something supernatural or that the conscience is supernatural or comes from a supernatural being.
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