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My 75 Year Old Grandfather Is Fighting Cancer.?

Postby Struan » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:30 am

He is on his 2nd treatment of chemotherapy and it seems to have made him weaker. Since January 2011, he has lost about 40 pounds. He says he feels worse. On his 3rd treatment, he became very dehydrated and weak, he ended up in ICU but left the next morning. Just 2 weeks ago, he had his 4th treatment and had been in bed for the past 2 weeks. He has no apetite. He is currently in ICU and was diagnosed with bacterial pneumonia and the flu. He also has an infection which the Docs cant seem to locate at the moment. He can barely talk, he eats then immediately throws it all up and he is very very weak. My question is, do you think its possible that he may not make it or could he come out of it? I would prefer personal experiences in answering this topic.
Im far away in North Carolina and he is in Arizona. I dont know if I should go home just yet. Considering the cost of plane tickets and my 5 children, Im at a standstill.
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Postby Hansel » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:31 am

lower carb plus calorie counting is the way to go
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Postby Eldon » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:32 am

Check out menus online before heading out so you've got a few healthy options in intellect.
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Postby Fferyll » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:33 am

In over 200 years drug companies have been in existence, they have NOT CURED a single disease! In the last 100 years of researching cancer, the best they have come up with is a 2.1% ABSOLUTE survival rate beyond 5 years.
Don't be fooled by the RELATIVE number cancer doctors always use to bolster their support of this terrible technology.
Yes, non-hodgkins lymphoma has about 40.3% survival, but throwing that cancer into the total mix, the 2.1% is the number.
Chemotherapy is abusive and does NOT work in most cases.
Cancer doctors will not put their own family members through that, so why should you?

Here is a recent article talking about pancreatic cancer and how the medical industry skewed the results of the study and suppressed what was working.
MONEY DOESN'T TALK, IT SCREAMS! ! ! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...

Drug companies are controlling the medical industry today and doctors have become technicians, not healers dolling out medications like they were passing out candy to children on Halloween.
That is not health building, but just treating symptoms and managing diseases.
It is "MAKE BELIEVE HEALTH."

Do your homework if you care about your loved ones.
This is all about BIG MONEY, not health.

@April: Nice to see you here April spewing your diatribes that you know very little about.
You still have brain cancer and are caught up in the system and we all here know you have to support that because you decided it was what you wanted.
Fortunately, there are people like Mercola and others that have looked at the ridiculous state of our medical system and cancer treatments with clear thinking and not biased by deceit and lies being told the American public.
It's easy to say derogatory remarks about people like Mercola, but the millions of subscribers he has are not laughing and getting healthy as a result of the EXPERTS he interviews and articles he promotes.
He is but one of many that are dedicated to presenting the truth.


The Australian study that was conducted by 5 or 6 oncologist that collected the statistics from all the cancer clinics in America and elsewhere are now famous.
Of course you don't want to acknowledge that because it's contrary to your indoctrination.
It is based on ABSOLUTE numbers, not those relative numbers typically vomited by the medical poison injectors.
I'm really not sure where you got that I think fruit and water will cure something.
And do you think humans don't need oxygen & vitamins? And where do I say I'm a liberal?

You madam, are a victim suffering from delusions that our cancer treatments are wonderful.
Where is your proof? Please tell us one joke Mercola has told? Did you know that your AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY in 2007 said "Surgery, radiation therapy, and chemotherapy... seldom produce a cure." That was a quote from the "CANCER FACTS & FIGURES 2007."

The study where the statistics I quote came from was called "The Contribution of Cytotoxic Chemotherapy to 5-year Survival in Adult Malignancies. This study took every randomized controlled clinical trial performed in the U.S. from 1990 to 2004 and the results showed the above Cancer cure statistics.
This, unlike studies you read, were from these independent doctors looking for the truth.
And by the way, testicular cancer success according to that study is 37%, barely above the criteria for a placebo (sugar pill) affect of 30% used in studies.


"@Rachel" Thank you for that sobering statistic about your dad.
I am very sorry for your loss and wish the best for you.
People like April, I believe, actually believe what they are telling people, but the facts keep coming back at them and they keep ignoring them in their delusional state.


@April: You have really lost it dear.
That study is very clear on the absolute numbers and breast cancer is 1.4% living longer than 5 years after chemotherapy.
Look at the Chart! ! ! You are either really delusional or you have completely lost it.
The chart in the study is very clear and it refers to the ABSOLUTE NUMBERS, not relative numbers.
Please get your facts straight at least.
It is TABLE ? 2 - Impact of cytotoxic chemotherapy on 5-year survival in American Adults.

April: Using the study you stated: In the ABSTRACT under ?Results? it clearly states ?The overall contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to be . . . 2.1% in the U.S.A.? It goes on in the ?Conclusion: As the 5-year relative (notice it says ?relative? which is basically a made up number twisting statistics) survival rate for cancer in Australia is no over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival.?

good luck to you
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Postby Shishiesh » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:34 am

Hi, really sorry to hear about your grandfather.
It sounds like he is in a pretty bad way and maybe you should go and visit him as you don't know how much time he has left. My father passed away a little over a week ago from prostate cancer and in the end it was very sudden even though he had been declining for a while so we were all shocked at how fast it happened and all wish we'd said and done things that we never got a chance to do. My dad had chemo too but had to stop after 5 treatments as it landed him in hospital for a week-it sounds like the chemo is having the bad effect on your grandad and he might feel better when it's over.

As for the person who said-"Old men are stubborn and he probably waited too long to go to the dr. Prostate cancer is very curable if caught early." I don't know if this is the case with your grandfather but I personally find it quite offensive as my dad had all of his check-ups and was very diligent with going to the doctors and it still got him. So it's not always the case that the patient waited too long and it's unfair to suggest it. Prostate cancer is the second leading cause of cancer death in men, and I'm sure that not all of the men who die from it avoided the doctors.

One more thing-MOST types of cancer are very curable if caught early but people still die, prostate cancer is no different. Sorry for the rant, just get annoyed when people make out that prostate cancer is always curable and if it's reached stage IV it must be the patients fault. Good luck to you and your grandfather, I know how hard this is.
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Postby Ahimelech » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:36 am

Is he on is 2nd treatment now, after having 3rd and 4th treatment? Old men are stubborn and he probably waited too long to go to the dr. Prostate cancer is very curable if caught early. I would make the trip soon, stage 4 anything is not good.

Don't listen to Only, he's a liberal alt med crazy that thinks fruits and water will cure anything, oh and oxygen and vitamins but not tablets...

oh yeah, I live in nc too.

I subscribe to mercola emails just for laughs. The jokes they tell!!

wait for it....

Yep, it was worth the wait...Only, I think you're missing some numbers and your decimal point is in the wrong place...

This stat is just for breast cancer, but it indicates how brainwashed you are into believing...

"Five-Year Relative Survival Rates by Stage at Diagnosis, 1996-2002."

In that table, the five year survival data for breast cancer is listed as:

All Stages: 88.5%

Local: 98.1%

Regional: 83.1%

Distant: 26.0%

The 5 year survival rate of prostate cancer in the 96-02 stats was actually 99.9%

If I "still" had brain cancer, I certainly wouldn't be on YA...

Now in your all knowing way, plainly describe to all, exactly what absolute means in mathematics...

Oh and your quotes are from clinical trials?? Unproven medicines?? Try the good stuff %...oh wait, that will make you look delusional..

You really should read this, Only, and pay close attention as it relates to your absolute survival... http://www.burtongoldberg.com/home/burto...
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Postby garrick » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:37 am

low carb plus calorie counting is ideal
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Postby Merv » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:40 am

I feel your pain. My step-grandfather whom I'm really attached to just found out that he has Stage IV cancer in numerous parts of his body. He does not have much time to live, perhaps 4-6 months but we're making him as comfortable as possible and that's what you should do with your grandfather as well. If he pulls through, that would be wonderful so do not give up hope. If he does not though, make his final days on this Earth pleasurable and talk about things to each other and maybe record his memories on a tape or camera or something. I too live in North Carolina.

God Bless,

Joe
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Postby abornazine39 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:45 am

Don?t mix fats and cabohydrate supply. If you eat two of the most calorie dense molecules at the same time, your body will have issues processing them. You can take in both, but at separate instances.
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Postby Kirwyn » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:51 am

Sip calorie-free mineral water, seltzer, or green tea with all your meal instead of soda, sweetened hot tea, or juice.
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