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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Gestur » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:03 pm

Better yet...will the black women stand up and speak up for themselves? They get more and die more from breast cancer than any race....are they going to demand affirmative action for their medical rights when we can't?

BET THEY GET IT TOO!

And those that still think you have a choice in this you are really not paying attention are you? WHAT PASSES and what you are TOLD are two different things.

HOW can you believe an administration that has over 500 days of lies?

If you believe this..you are REALLY IN TROUBLE!

THE MEDICAL CZAR IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU GET AND WHAT YOU DON'T GET.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE APPROVAL OF EVERYTHING!

IF you can't imagine and understand what THAT MEANS..you are seriously in denial!

This is why europe's health care is not so great..

For all types of cancers, European men have only a 47.3 percent five-year survival rate, compared to 66.3 percent survival rate for American men. The greatest disparity was in prostate cancer, which American men are 28 percent more likely to survive than European men.

European women are only 55.8 percent likely to live five years after contracting any kind of cancer, compared to 62.9 percent for American women.

In five cancers -- breast, prostate, thyroid, testicular and skin melanoma -- American survival rates are higher than 90 percent. Europeans hit a 90 percent survival rate for only one of those -- testicular cancer.

Most disturbingly, many cancers in Europe are discovered only upon the victim's death -- twice as many as in the U.S. Consequently, the European study simply excluded cancers that were first noted on the death certificate, so as not to give the U.S. too great an advantage.

I have HAD CANCER and survived.
I KNOW HOW Important early detection is.
I would be DEAD if I had not found it when we did!

It is serious stuff.
And those that have not had it and have not faced the fear of death are politically inclined and not for LIFE! When you can stand there and say this isn't going to happen..when you can say it is ok....then it should happen to YOU.
YOU should have to wait and worry and wonder while something eats away at you and wonder when and if they can get it time so you can watch your grandbabies and children grow up.

Canada and Europe do not have great success in cancer survival rates.
THAT IS WHY THEY COME HERE!

You dems are lost.
And heartless and cowards to not face up to your party for LIFE.
You claim you want life...but you don't stand up for it.
You stand for your party and not for yourselves!

I knew someone would say BUSH DID THIS...God..you people are heartless and crazy...you don't stand up for NOW..and what is going to happen..but you live in what you THINK Is the past and blame blame blame.
THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE DEMS.
THey can't live in NOW...and DO ANYTHING....THEY DO NOTHING BUT HURT AMERICANS! Then they blame BUSH!

UNBELIEVABLE! Your children are going to have to learn responsibility sometime in their lives...I hope they have great teachers because you teach them to blame and not accept responsibility for THEIR LIVES and THEIR ACTIONS by this constant cowardice blaming!
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Rian » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:08 pm

IF you have no family history of breast cancer, IF you have no symptoms, and IF you don't find a lump yourself, then the extra exposure to x-rays may be more harmful to your health than delaying the first Mammo.

I would still have been advised by my doctor to get that first mammo at 40.
Well, actually, I got the first one at 33.
NONE of the new recommendations would have changed any of the treatment I sought or received.

I worry that the new recommendations may stop some women from seeking treatment, but as is always true, we have to be advocates for our own health.
I have never and I never will rely on some panel to make my personal choices nor will I hold those people responsible for my well-being.


By the way, no one is denied the right to a mammogram under the new guidelines.
If she thinks she needs one or her doctor advises her to get one, her medical insurance will continue to pay the way they have been.


She just better hope she doesn't have her coverage rescinded if she does have cancer, or she better hope that she doesn't lose the job through which she currently has insurance while she is ill.
Until health care insurance reform is passed, those are bigger threats to her.
If either of those outcomes become reality as they have for thousands and thousands, perhaps she'll become more liberal, and her conservative loved ones will have a reason to rethink their own positions.
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Sheedy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:15 pm

I think you're alluding to rationing... which according to every DEMONcrat there won't be.
Except you won't be able to get what you want when you want it.

Rationing will be come a word you can't say.. it will be the "R" word.

And if Gramps needs a pace maker at age 87, well a panel of "comparative cost study experts" might say spending that type of money on an old man isn't money well spent.... but don't you dare call them a "death panel".

Sunlight kills all vampires and blood suckers.
Let the light shine, baby.. let it shine...
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Cai » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:16 pm

I know where you are coming from, and I am totally against socialized health care. But what stoppped these women from paying for there own mammogram?? It's not that expensive, people act like its impossible for anyone to pay for anything themselves. If the law passes, then all that means is that your insurance won't cover the cost of a mammogram at a certain age, it doesn't mean you can;t get one.

I get the point about rationed health care, but really all this talk seems a little 'over the top'.
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Cachamwri » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:24 pm

GET YOUR MAMMOGRAMS.
I'm not usually a conpiracy theorist, but I do believe the govt is trying to make our Health Care system look inefficient.
The American Cancer Society issued a statement saying that they disagree with the statement about not getting a mammogram, in fact they believe you should get one when you're 40 unless you have a history of it in your family, then get one when you are 30.


Political parties should not matter when it comes to your health.
It's unfortunate that the leaders of our political system back this up.


P.S. I'm a conservative.
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Donaghy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:36 pm

Why would they blame Liberals for getting breast cancer? Mammograms tell you if you have cancer it doesn't prevent it.


I do not want government controlled health care but let's be realistic here.
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Baldovino » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:42 pm

Actually, dead end resources can cause the death of women. It is commonplace for agencies to offer free screenings, then deny access to them for various reasons. The political pandering found within various social services creates a forum of rally used to disenfranchise individuals from various programs.

It's socialism and coercion. Various government agencies receive political donations from various organizations, what they get in return is political rally within the programs they fund and human research subjects.

It's all managed by the Federal and State governments.
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby averell » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:51 pm

You don't make any sense it's the Cons that don't want to make health care affordable for everyone so woman can get the care they need if your talking about the study that came out a few weeks ago about mammograms that started when Bush was Pres.
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby jacobe » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:53 pm

I would venture to guess that a liberal with a clearly defined agenda would probably turn conservative immediately upon achieving his/her goal while those with less defined goals, or a general ideological inclination towards change would not. I find that even within myself there is constant movement between liberal and conservative. When life is good and business is good I gravitate towards conservatism but if things are bad, I'm right there with the liberals, interested in changing things. Hopefully I'm understanding your question correctly. People who basically believe that things are pretty good the way they are would be considered conservative while those who believe that some gross incorrectness exists within our system which needs to be rectified are considered liberal. Poll after poll shows conservatives to be generally happier individuals and that makes sense to me. Should the liberals get what they are after in governmental changes, they would become happier too, but then they wouldn't be liberals any longer. :o)
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If A Liberal In Her 40s Gets Breast Cancer From Being Denied Yrly Mammagrams Does She Become A Conservative?

Postby Tangakwunu » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:25 pm

Flaw in the question - the lack of mammogram does not cause cancer...if she's got it, she's got it...

What you are talking about is early detection...so more like if a woman is going to die from breast cancer from being denied yearly mammograms...

But as a Canadian, I can tell you that the universal medical care here ensures that the woman who would have died because she couldn't afford a free market mammogram gets one just like the woman who could afford to pay for it.....unsure why your proposed system would be different....
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