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Almost vegetarian: failing the vegetarian diet?

Postby cruim37 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:09 pm

does anyone feel like if they dont eat some red meat u just feel like you're going to die and nothing you eat seems to satisfy you? i tried to go veg since 10 years ago and i would very much like to go veg... but its near impossible... the longest i have been veg is around no more than 2 months at a time... i take vitamins and protien powder and try to eat nuts and things like that too but i still crave meat like crazy... what do i do?!
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Postby iye » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:10 pm

Here's what you need to eat. Please make a note of the pulses and vegetables which I've mentioned. Apart from those mentioned, it would be beneficial to purchase fruits and vegetables which are native to your region so that you can formulate your own recipes in the future.
You need to make sure you eat pulses at least three times a week and fruits and vegetables everyday.
Have a fruit for breakfast(apart from something else of course) and vegetables/pulses for lunch and dinner.
Make sure you include ALL varities of fruits, vegetables, pulses, grains, nuts, seeds and dry fruits in your grocery list.

Don't eat mock meat and soybean as mock meat contains sodium and soybean is bad for health.
Mock meat is also soy based so too much soy can be bad for health.
Actually even a little soy is bad for health.
What's wrong with soy?
Soy beans are naturally toxic to humans, but they're harmless when they go through a fermentation process, which is how we get tofu.
But soy is being used in more and more things these days.
Just look through your cabinet. You'll be surprised.
Anyway, most companies aren't putting their soy beans through this process because it takes too much time, and time = money.
Instead, they put it through a chemical process, but this rarely gets rid of the soy's toxicity completely.
Symptoms of a high soy diet are thyroid problems, breast cancer, and other complications.
People get these symptoms because the soy they eat isn't fermented.

Mock meat can never be part of a staple diet(food what you eat everyday) as it is highly processed.
You CAN have it ONCE IN A WAY.
Its a luxury and not a need.
Now looking at a staple diet, You'll need to consume naturally occurring FRUITS,VEGETABLES(cauliflower,carrot, potato, beetroot, broccoli, okra, eggplant, radish, turnip, cabbage, bitter gourd, spinach,capsicum(aka bell peppers)),PULSES(chickpeas,kidney beans,black eyed peas,green gram,black gram,lentils,lablab bean,moth bean,horse gram,cow pea,double beans),NUTS(cashew nuts,peanuts,walnuts,pistachios,raisins) and GRAINS.
Also, do have figs once in a while as it is good for blood purification.
Make something like rice and bread your staple diet.
You can have rice with vegetables or lentils/legumes for lunch and bread(I have Indian bread usually) with pulses for dinner.
You will get all vitamins and minerals from fruits,vegetables,pulses, legumes and nuts provided you consume them in variety so don't fall for the myth that says vegans/vegetarians need to take multivitamin supplements.
Vegans/vegetarians don't need to take supplements as they get all their nutrients from the above mentioned sources.
Supplements are supposed to be taken by people with deficiencies so do not take them UNLESS they have been prescribed to you by a doctor.
Here are some recipes:
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Postby chayim » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:15 pm

There is absolutely no science to prove some people's claims that cravings indicate a nutritional deficiency related to the food you are craving.
My suggestion is to eat beans and whole grains instead of nuts and protein powder-they fill you up and stay with you better.
Some people, however, find they never stop wanting meat. It's entirely up to you to either resist the cravings and stay true to your professed desire not to eat meat or give into them and make peace with yourself as a omnivore who doesn't eat very much meat.
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Postby agustin » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:25 pm

Okay, I doubt this will be a popular answer, but here goes.
Life is too short to feel like you're depriving yourself of something. You have spent ten years trying to go vegetarian. You clearly really, really care. That is great. Wanting to eat meat from time to time doesn't diminish that. Make sure it is from local, certified humane sources and limit it to just every once in a while. Do all you can to help animals in other ways. You don't have to be a vegetarian to love animals.

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Postby faron30 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:27 pm

eat more iron-rich foods. Nuts, green leafy vegetables, dark chocolate, fortified cereal. Ditch the vitamins and protein powders and just eat food. Look up healthy eating and eat healthy food. When your body is clean and healthy you don't get cravings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlTElxeD5Q Maximum Nutrition - Transitioning Towards a Plant Based Diet
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Postby jackson » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:31 pm

This is purely psychological. I have zero clue why people crave hot death. That's what cooked meat is and what slaughterhouses smell like.

As to the comment about cravings being what the body needs... Another example of bro-science. All studies and research done has shown NO correlation between cravings and nutritional deficiencies.

Cravings are psychological and learned.
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Postby weallere » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:36 pm

Always make sure to eat enough protein, if you crave meat you need it. Pregnant women crave certain foods that have dietary needs they are not getting through their current diet. This ensures that their baby will be healthy and strong. Make sure your diet is complete. Humans are natural omnivores. I hope this helps you. :)
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